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Derek:
WaSP and other standards groups are nice and a
good ideal to follow. Unfortunately, as much as we whine that people should get
newer browsers, that ain't gonna happen anywhere near as fast as it would be
neccessary for us to be able to dump layout tables and move yto full CSS 1 and
CSS 2 layouts.
Do you care what browsers can view your page as
designed? I do and at work had to acommodate 4 or 5 different browsers (not to
talk about platforms). Do you care about graceful degradation for those people
who don't have the latest and greatest? Does it matter to you that it
probably takes people longer to learn CSS and strict html 4.01 to work
on the site?
Using CSS is not just a matter of being sold. If
you see the compatibility matrix at the Web Standards Project website or any
other website. You wil find out that few browsers support the entire CSS 1, not
to talk about CSS 2 or 3. Then you have the same problems as before: even the
same browser on different platforms act differently so having the same browser
on Mac and PC doesn't guarantee the site will look the same.
As much as I would like to (having redone most of
my pages using CSS and CSS positioning) we can't dictate to people whe and how
often to upgrade their browsers.
Carlos
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003
00:06
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] [Website]
Refining some style issues (CSS?)
Marc
I would seriously consider stopping hacking around
with tables to do page layout and move over to
CSS for all your layout and page formatting. No
more icky spacer.gif's and other such... I have just
(re)done my first site recently and its quite a pleasure
to take all the clutter out!
If you have not yet "bought into" use of CSS, I would
suggest reading:
I am happy to supply more links to stories, case studies
etc if you need them.
Derek >>> Marc Baaden 28/10/2003
09:27:37 >>>
Hi,
I am currently trying to achieve the
following with website:
Have the whole left side of the page (navigation
toc + part below)
in a different color (black in my case) than the body
text.
My current "achievements" can be seen at eg
http://baaden.nerim.net/ws/links.html
http://baaden.nerim.net/ws/cv.html
Several points remain that I don't quite understand / cannot
fix:
- why do both pages (cv.html and links.html) differ in width ?
cv.html is larger than links.html .. and ideally how to fix
this ?
From the xml source the difference is not apparent.
- how can the
black background of the toc be continued below,
eg where the date field is
(I have already tried a customization
of the footer, but the problem is
that it is never the same
width as above, and furthermore trying different
browsers -
safari, IE, opera, mozilla - yields different results :((
- what about the very slim but visible (and on some pages larger)
white line just above the banner. Any chance to get the completely
black ?
The sources can be found at the same site as
http://baaden.nerim.net/ws/cv.xml
http://baaden.nerim.net/ws/links.xml
http://baaden.nerim.net/ws/mb.css
Thanks in advance for any hints on how to fine-tune the appearance
of the site, probably either with xsl customization or css tweaking,
Cheers,
Marc Baaden
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