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Re: Lets add a joke to the manual
On Mon, 2018-05-07 at 22:27 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On May 7, 2018, Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 08:50:55PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> >> How about replacing the current joke with:
> >>
> >> there used to be a joke about censorship here, but
> >> Aborted (core dumped)
>
> > Haha! Thanks for that.
>
> > I was afraid the discussion had become poisonous, but this is
> > a great suggestion. Want to propose an actual patch?
>
> Nah, it's become too painful for me to contribute to glibc.
Yet you manage to ignore consensus, question that we are now a
community-driven, consensus-based project, and generally annoy other
developers (eg, see below)?
> The
> consensus rules are too bureaucratic, weakly defined, and not applied
> uniformly for me to feel confident of being allowed to install patches
> under the rules. This is not about this year's episode, BTW. It was
> one of the primary reasons why I moved back to GCC, where the rules of
> patch reviewing and acceptance make a lot more sense to me.
>
> But anyone should feel free to turn the above into a patch for the
> manual. Or this:
>
> if rms rules: we fork()
> else: we knife him
> truth: there's no spoon
This is a statement I'd classify as toxic behavior. It was probably
meant as a joke, but it's inappropriate because it suggests that in
reality, the people you are arguing with are on a personal vendetta or
something like that against RMS. That's not the case.
They are standing up for glibc being a consensus-based, community-driven
project. Of course, that clashes when somebody shows up and claims to
be the actual leader of it all and can always override community
consensus. That's what RMS did, but it's not because it was RMS who did
that. Anybody doing that would have heard the same from the community.
Another reason why I'd classify it as that, instead of being just an
instance of a bad joke, is that in my impression, you have been
repeatedly making statements like that in discussions (eg, slightly
distorting what others said, some ridicule and "jokes", wide-ranging
accussations, etc.). And when others start to do similar, you claim
that all hell broke loose.
How would you feel if we were to start making "jokes" as the one above
about you, RMS, or others?