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Re: gag rule joke


On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 20:57 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On May  9, 2018, Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 15:55 +0200, Javiera Serrano Polo wrote:
> >> El dc 09 de 05 de 2018 a les 17:39 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar va
> >> escriure:
> >> > That's mockery
> 
> > Come on, it's not that hard to discuss in a professional manner, or is
> > it?
> 
> >> Also, please stop trying to defend PGF, I'm sure she is capable of
> >> doing that for herself.
> 
> > he is ensuring that glibc can stay a healthy community by speaking out
> > against behavior we consider toxic -- behavior such as yours in this
> > and your previous message.
> 
> 
> Is it ok when e.g. Siddhesh uses that argument,

The two comments he made to you and to Javiera were not the same.  He
suggested that your comments about what RMS might think or feel and why
he might have decided in a certain way may not have been helpful from
RMS' position.
In contrast, he told Javiera to please stop what Siddhesh though was
mockery.
Thus, your comments where specific to a person, but Siddhesh's remarks
to Javeria were about the style of communication on this list.

> but unprofessional and
> toxic when others use them against the position he and you share?

You're mixing things up here.

Siddhesh made a suggestion to you, which I think was in line because his
intent was positive towards RMS; he didn't want to silence you, but said
that maybe you wouldn't perfectly represent RMS.  (I've seen your
comment that you think it was about silencing.)

In contrast, Javiera's second to last comment (the apt-get thing) was
clearly inappropriate.  His last comment just tried to distort Siddhesh'
statements and derail the discussion.  I didn't contribute to any of the
topics we're discussing. 



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