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Re: [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable
- From: Christian Brauner <christian at brauner dot io>
- To: ebiederm at xmission dot com,Arnd Bergmann <arnd at arndb dot de>
- Cc: Rich Felker <dalias at libc dot org>,Alistair Francis <alistair dot francis at wdc dot com>,GNU C Library <libc-alpha at sourceware dot org>,Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval dot zanella at linaro dot org>,Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com>,Palmer Dabbelt <palmer at sifive dot com>,macro at wdc dot com,Zong Li <zongbox at gmail dot com>,Alistair Francis <alistair23 at gmail dot com>,Andrew Morton <akpm at linux-foundation dot org>,Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation dot org>,Al Viro <viro at zeniv dot linux dot org dot uk>,"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa at zytor dot com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:28:44 +0200
- Subject: Re: [RFC v3 03/23] sysdeps/wait: Use waitid if avaliable
- References: <cover.1563321715.git.alistair.francis@wdc.com> <2d3359a195633b85e01f83bf536330d72f7bc8aa.1563321715.git.alistair.francis@wdc.com> <20190721040310.GA3283@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <CAK8P3a0bhS_d1SMyLQO_LDNvdgR+MKXmoESxWkrcz22mvjKcuw@mail.gmail.com> <87o91nbn37.fsf@xmission.com>
On July 21, 2019 2:15:24 PM GMT+02:00, ebiederm@xmission.com wrote:
>Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 05:08:48PM -0700, Alistair Francis wrote:
>>> > #ifdef __NR_waitpid
>>> > return SYSCALL_CANCEL (waitpid, pid, stat_loc, options);
>>> > +#elif defined(__NR_waitid)
>>> > + __pid_t ret;
>>> > + idtype_t idtype = P_PID;
>>> > + siginfo_t infop;
>>> > +
>>> > + if (pid < -1) {
>>> > + idtype = P_PGID;
>>> > + pid *= -1;
>>> > + } else if (pid == -1) {
>>> > + idtype = P_ALL;
>>> > + } else if (pid == 0) {
>>> > + idtype = P_PGID;
>>> > + pid = getpgrp();
>>> > + }
>>> > +
>>> > + options |= WEXITED;
>>> > +
>>> > + ret = SYSCALL_CANCEL (waitid, idtype, pid, &infop, options,
>NULL);
>>>
>>> This emulation has a fundamental race condition. Between getpgrp and
>>> waitid, a signal handler may perform setpgrp, setsid, and/or fork in
>>> ways that cause the wrong pgid to be passed to the waitid syscall.
>>> There is no way around this because you cannot block signals for the
>>> interval, since signals must be able to interrupt the waitid
>syscall.
>>
>> Interesting, I don't think anyone ever considered this race, as
>waitid()
>> was clearly always /intended/ as a superset of wait(), waitpid(),
>wait3()
>> and wait4(), as Roland McGrath described in the initial creation
>> of the waitid() syscall, see
>>
>https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/200408152303.i7FN3Vc3021030@magilla.sf.frob.com/
>>
>
>It is definitley a problem as setpid and setpgrp and setsid are all
>required to be signal safe, and this waitpid emulation is clearly not.
>
>> I originally planned to have a new waitid_time64() syscall to replace
>> them in the y2038 series, but that got deferred, so at the moment
>> the older 32-bit architectures don't have any changes for wait*(),
>and
>> riscv32 just removed wait4() but kept waitid().
>>
>> It would be easy enough to restore wait4() for riscv32, or we could
>> decide to extend waitid() in a backward-compatible way to close
>> this race, e.g. by allowing P_PGID with pid=0 (this is currently
>> -EINVAL), by adding a new P_SAME_PGID macro to cover that
>> case, or by creating a new waitid replacement that does other things
>> as well (nanosecond ru_*time, pidfd, ...).
>>
>> Adding a few more kernel developers that may have an opinion on this.
>
>In a different reply it was mentioned that wait4 has had an issue since
>2008, where it does not track changes in the current processes pgrp.
>
>I would like to get resolution on if that is a real problem for anyone
>or if it is a something theoretical found on code review, before we
>deal
>with this issue. Because tracking pgrp changes will require a deeper
>code change.
>
>My gut feel says either fix waitid (with P_SAME_PGID) or clearly
>document
>why the kernel's waitid is not a replacement for wait4, and add wait4
>to
>riscv.
>
>Would adding wait4 to riscv allow us to get rid of the rusage parameter
>of the kernel's waitid?
>
>I don't oppose a new syscall to take advantage of pidfd but I don't
>think there is any need to tie the two fixes together so I would rather
>keep them separate. Just so we don't rush through fixing one to deal
>with the other.
>
>Eric
Fwiw, I have a patchset for pidfd_wait ready.
But I strongly oppose mixing pids and pidfds.
That syscall will only handle pidfds.
Christian